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Message: <blockquote data-quote="RigaMortus" data-source="post: 691226" data-attributes="member: 1077">Fair enough.  Although I still disagree (until there is an official ruling, hopefully in 3.5 if not sooner) I found some evidence to support your theory.I took a look at Aoo again, looking for anything which would support the theory that you need to perceive what your opponent is doing in order to make an AoO.  Well I couldn't find anything that implied that, but I did find that "a combatant in melee lets her guard down, and she is not on the defensive as usual."  This implies that ANYTIME they let their guard down, they are no longer on the defensive.  It doesn't mention that the opponents need to see or perceive her with her guard down.  She either is being defensive or not, and she makes that determination by her actions.Then it goes on to say that, "combatants near her can take advantage of her lapse in defense to attack for free."  So it seems the only qualifiers are that the opponent has to put their guard down (which THEIR actions determine) and have to be near you for you to make an AoO against them.Now again, to me common sense and even the spirit of the rule would imply you need to perceive someone "taking their guard down."  And there are a LOT of spells (and feats for that matter) that break the rules as well.  By the strict reading of the rules, you have a valid point.  By the spirit of the rules (and the invisibility spell) I still think you need to be aware (as in, see) of the actual action which drops one guard.</blockquote>

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