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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 692459" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>In the event that a person is unaware of the existence of invisible creatures in the vicinity, I would consider them as flat-footed with respect to those creatures, and hence ineligible for AoOs (unless they have Combat Reflexes).</p><p></p><p>If someone knows there is an invisible creature about (either he made the DC 20 spot check to sense "something's out there" or he saw them turn invisible in the first place), they're not considered flat-footed, merely denied Dex bonus. Dex bonus isn't enough to prevent AoOs.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Whereas I view the AoO rules as being a) and b), plus e) you are not flat-footed, or you have combat reflexes.</p><p></p><p>It's not necessary to pinpoint an invisible creature to attack them - you select a square and roll your miss chance along with your attack roll. Wrong square? No hit. Miss chance comes up? No hit. Bad attack roll? No hit. </p><p></p><p>But it's possible to successfully hit an invisible, non-pinpointed target, and in my opinion if he provokes an AoO within a threatened area, he suffers the potential consequences.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It would be a judgement call, I think, on how long you'd been away. If the monster had reason to suspect there were hostile invisible creatures in the area, he'd get his AoO. With a ten foot reach, there are a whole lot of squares to choose from, so there's a good chance he'd miss.</p><p></p><p>If he had no reason to believe there were any hostile invisible creatures around, he wouldn't (without Cobat Reflexes).</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 692459, member: 1656"] In the event that a person is unaware of the existence of invisible creatures in the vicinity, I would consider them as flat-footed with respect to those creatures, and hence ineligible for AoOs (unless they have Combat Reflexes). If someone knows there is an invisible creature about (either he made the DC 20 spot check to sense "something's out there" or he saw them turn invisible in the first place), they're not considered flat-footed, merely denied Dex bonus. Dex bonus isn't enough to prevent AoOs. Whereas I view the AoO rules as being a) and b), plus e) you are not flat-footed, or you have combat reflexes. It's not necessary to pinpoint an invisible creature to attack them - you select a square and roll your miss chance along with your attack roll. Wrong square? No hit. Miss chance comes up? No hit. Bad attack roll? No hit. But it's possible to successfully hit an invisible, non-pinpointed target, and in my opinion if he provokes an AoO within a threatened area, he suffers the potential consequences. It would be a judgement call, I think, on how long you'd been away. If the monster had reason to suspect there were hostile invisible creatures in the area, he'd get his AoO. With a ten foot reach, there are a whole lot of squares to choose from, so there's a good chance he'd miss. If he had no reason to believe there were any hostile invisible creatures around, he wouldn't (without Cobat Reflexes). -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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