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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2969692" data-attributes="member: 2011">Unlike many other Force Effects, Magic Missile states Target: Creatures. It would affect objects except that it explicitly excludes objects:I've brought this point up before. If Force Effects do not affect objects, then (the SRD version of) Wall of Force does not stop arrows.Nowhere in its description does Wall of Force state that it blocks objects such as arrows, nor does it state that it provides total cover. It also does not state that it is a solid wall. Just because the wall is immune to arrow damage does not indicate that it stops arrows (or any other inanimate objects).To me, since Blade Barrier explicitly states that it provides a cover bonus to attacks, it has to minimally block attacks. This includes spell attacks that cover bonus affects (like Rays) and missile attacks (like Arrows). If it blocks a missile, it has to affect objects. QED.So, I consider Magic Missile to be the exception and other Force Effects to be the rule.If you emphasize the &quot;creature&quot; aspect of Blade Barrier, do you not also have to do the same for Wall of Force? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 2969692, member: 2011"] Unlike many other Force Effects, Magic Missile states Target: Creatures. It would affect objects except that it explicitly excludes objects: I've brought this point up before. If Force Effects do not affect objects, then (the SRD version of) Wall of Force does not stop arrows. Nowhere in its description does Wall of Force state that it blocks objects such as arrows, nor does it state that it provides total cover. It also does not state that it is a solid wall. Just because the wall is immune to arrow damage does not indicate that it stops arrows (or any other inanimate objects). To me, since Blade Barrier explicitly states that it provides a cover bonus to attacks, it has to minimally block attacks. This includes spell attacks that cover bonus affects (like Rays) and missile attacks (like Arrows). If it blocks a missile, it has to affect objects. QED. So, I consider Magic Missile to be the exception and other Force Effects to be the rule. If you emphasize the "creature" aspect of Blade Barrier, do you not also have to do the same for Wall of Force? ;) [/QUOTE]

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