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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Pendragon" data-source="post: 664720" data-attributes="member: 707">Hong, you're on a roll with your example/counter-example references.&nbsp; Keep up the good work, guy.To respond to the original question:&nbsp; No.For me, the idea of instant death doesn't factor into the fantasy of a combat.&nbsp; Fantasy isn't linked to mortality (and I don't think anyone is arguing that PCs don't die in 3e!) at least for me.&nbsp; As a player, as a DM, the fantasy of it is entirely a product of the in-game description.DM1:&nbsp; The orc hits you.&nbsp; You take 20 points of damage.(Now this isn't very interesting.&nbsp; The fantasy/heroics/suspension-of-disbelief is entirely lost.)DM2:&nbsp; The orc charges toward you screaming.&nbsp; He takes a 2-handed grip on his war club and brings it crashing down on your shield so hard you can feel it in the soles of your feet.&nbsp; You take 20 points of damage.(Here's what I want.&nbsp; Whether my PC has 21hp or 210, it doesn't matter.&nbsp; This is the type of scene that keeps the fantasy alive for me.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lord Pendragon, post: 664720, member: 707"] Hong, you're on a roll with your example/counter-example references. Keep up the good work, guy. To respond to the original question: No. For me, the idea of instant death doesn't factor into the fantasy of a combat. Fantasy isn't linked to mortality (and I don't think anyone is arguing that PCs don't die in 3e!) at least for me. As a player, as a DM, the fantasy of it is entirely a product of the in-game description. DM1: The orc hits you. You take 20 points of damage. [i](Now this isn't very interesting. The fantasy/heroics/suspension-of-disbelief is entirely lost.)[/i] DM2: The orc charges toward you screaming. He takes a 2-handed grip on his war club and brings it crashing down on your shield so hard you can feel it in the soles of your feet. You take 20 points of damage. [i](Here's what I want. Whether my PC has 21hp or 210, it doesn't matter. This is the type of scene that keeps the fantasy alive for me.)[/i] [/QUOTE]

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