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Does D&D even have a component of "midieval" anymore?
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<blockquote data-quote="jolt" data-source="post: 3560261" data-attributes="member: 18142"><p>This was the original post in case anyone's forgotten. A lot of tangental topics have sprung up as a result. This isn't, inherently, a bad thing. However, medievlaism, feudalism, the plague and the Renaissance have all been researched exhaustively by credible historians for a long time. Historical reality is what it is. Arguing about it is pointless though some seem to want to do so.</p><p></p><p>If you're truely interested in these topics, or history in general: read books. One credible book is generally better and more complete than five credible websites. Of course, indentifying a credible website can be a chore in itself. And in case you didn't know, Wikipedia is not considered to be a credible or reliable source of information. Even when they get it "right", it's often oversimplified and incomplete. If you want to rely on Wiki for your historical knowledge, that's your choice; but you're going to be wrong a lot.</p><p></p><p>These topics were initially interesting but the thread has now, IMO, devolved into circular statements, repetitious comments, ignoring long and universally held historical facts, and "-The sun rises in the East. -No it doesn't! And what does that really mean anyways?" style of debate (which is inherently agitative and only fosters pointless arguements).</p><p></p><p>And so I'll take my leave of this thread while elements of civility still remain. However, I'd like to do so on topic:</p><p></p><p>Emirikol: D&D still has the trappings of medievalism, yes. But that's all they are, trappings.</p><p></p><p>Victim: No, it was never really that medieval. It has some of the superficial appearances of medivalism but even the quasi-feudal setting of 1E Greyhawk was/is not <em>representative</em> of medievalism.</p><p></p><p>To everyone else: Have fun, that's what it's all about.</p><p></p><p>jolt</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jolt, post: 3560261, member: 18142"] This was the original post in case anyone's forgotten. A lot of tangental topics have sprung up as a result. This isn't, inherently, a bad thing. However, medievlaism, feudalism, the plague and the Renaissance have all been researched exhaustively by credible historians for a long time. Historical reality is what it is. Arguing about it is pointless though some seem to want to do so. If you're truely interested in these topics, or history in general: read books. One credible book is generally better and more complete than five credible websites. Of course, indentifying a credible website can be a chore in itself. And in case you didn't know, Wikipedia is not considered to be a credible or reliable source of information. Even when they get it "right", it's often oversimplified and incomplete. If you want to rely on Wiki for your historical knowledge, that's your choice; but you're going to be wrong a lot. These topics were initially interesting but the thread has now, IMO, devolved into circular statements, repetitious comments, ignoring long and universally held historical facts, and "-The sun rises in the East. -No it doesn't! And what does that really mean anyways?" style of debate (which is inherently agitative and only fosters pointless arguements). And so I'll take my leave of this thread while elements of civility still remain. However, I'd like to do so on topic: Emirikol: D&D still has the trappings of medievalism, yes. But that's all they are, trappings. Victim: No, it was never really that medieval. It has some of the superficial appearances of medivalism but even the quasi-feudal setting of 1E Greyhawk was/is not [I]representative[/I] of medievalism. To everyone else: Have fun, that's what it's all about. jolt [/QUOTE]
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