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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 3567067" data-attributes="member: 22779">But, isn't it interesting that SF is full of writers whose aliens are not simple humans in drag?&nbsp; Not every SF universe is just bumpy headed humans like Star Trek.&nbsp; Many SF writers, like Jerry Pournelle and David Niven, for example, create alien races which are truly alien.&nbsp; The Moties in The Mote in God's Eye aren't just funny humans, they are very alien.&nbsp; The aliens in Ender's game are not remotely human.&nbsp; The aliens in Haldeman's Forever War are decidedly different.&nbsp; The Guildmasters in Dune, while they might have been human once, certainly aren't now.SF is full of races that aren't simply humans that can see in the dark, which is almost always how D&amp;D elves are portrayed./edited to add50 years after Tolkien's seminal work, we've had hundreds, if not thousands, of look-alike fantasy novels flood the genre.&nbsp; Tolkienesque demi-humans (to use an old term) can be found all over the place.&nbsp; Heck, despite 30 years of D&amp;D, our core races are pretty much ripped straight from the Professor's works.&nbsp; If, after all this time, and all this material, you still play with Tolkienesque settings, yes, I say that shows a lack of creativity.&nbsp; There's a huge volume of work out there that has nothing to do with Middle Earth that is every bit as creative and interesting.&nbsp; It would be nice if we could see that sort of thing in the game.&nbsp; We're finally starting to.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 3567067, member: 22779"] But, isn't it interesting that SF is full of writers whose aliens are not simple humans in drag? Not every SF universe is just bumpy headed humans like Star Trek. Many SF writers, like Jerry Pournelle and David Niven, for example, create alien races which are truly alien. The Moties in The Mote in God's Eye aren't just funny humans, they are very alien. The aliens in Ender's game are not remotely human. The aliens in Haldeman's Forever War are decidedly different. The Guildmasters in Dune, while they might have been human once, certainly aren't now. SF is full of races that aren't simply humans that can see in the dark, which is almost always how D&D elves are portrayed. /edited to add 50 years after Tolkien's seminal work, we've had hundreds, if not thousands, of look-alike fantasy novels flood the genre. Tolkienesque demi-humans (to use an old term) can be found all over the place. Heck, despite 30 years of D&D, our core races are pretty much ripped straight from the Professor's works. If, after all this time, and all this material, you still play with Tolkienesque settings, yes, I say that shows a lack of creativity. There's a huge volume of work out there that has nothing to do with Middle Earth that is every bit as creative and interesting. It would be nice if we could see that sort of thing in the game. We're finally starting to. [/QUOTE]

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