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<blockquote data-quote="BASHMAN" data-source="post: 3575767" data-attributes="member: 8277">Yes, the second picture definately works for dungeonpunk.&nbsp; Way too many overlapping plates for a suit of plate-mail.&nbsp; A medieval suit would not look like that. I guess as to whether or not D&amp;D is medieval, the answer has to be no, and it really hasn't ever been.&nbsp; How could a world without a powerful central church even pretend to be medieval?&nbsp; But 1st and 2nd ed did a good job of trying to pretend to be medieval.&nbsp; I think the new style of art in 3rd Ed. speaks to the trend to completely divorce D&amp;D from a medieval setting, and replace it with a pure fantasy setting.&nbsp; Rainbow mohawk paladins and nipple-ringed sorcerers et al, have done a good job of convincing us of this though the artwork, but there is some elements of it in the core rules. The return of the Monk class in 3.0 [which was dropped in 2e because it didn't &quot;fit&quot; the setting], the introduction of exotic weapons that never had roots in medieval weaponry [there were not too many of these in 2nd ed, even the flind bar was just metal nunchucks], are examples of the rules seperating from medieval culture.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BASHMAN, post: 3575767, member: 8277"] Yes, the second picture definately works for dungeonpunk. Way too many overlapping plates for a suit of plate-mail. A medieval suit would not look like that. I guess as to whether or not D&D is medieval, the answer has to be no, and it really hasn't ever been. How could a world without a powerful central church even pretend to be medieval? But 1st and 2nd ed did a good job of trying to pretend to be medieval. I think the new style of art in 3rd Ed. speaks to the trend to completely divorce D&D from a medieval setting, and replace it with a pure fantasy setting. Rainbow mohawk paladins and nipple-ringed sorcerers et al, have done a good job of convincing us of this though the artwork, but there is some elements of it in the core rules. The return of the Monk class in 3.0 [which was dropped in 2e because it didn't "fit" the setting], the introduction of exotic weapons that never had roots in medieval weaponry [there were not too many of these in 2nd ed, even the flind bar was just metal nunchucks], are examples of the rules seperating from medieval culture. [/QUOTE]

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