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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 6266514" data-attributes="member: 29398">Note that for the following when I say &quot;fighter&quot; I'm referring to all the warrior-type classes e.g. paladin, cavalier, knight, ranger, etc. as well as the straight fighter class.The problem is that everyone else other than the fighter fights too well, or can be made to fight too well, relative to the fighter.A simple, if not very elegant, solution might be to radically weaken combat buffs and combat-related magic items when used on/by a non-fighter.&nbsp; In 3e this would largely solve the CoDzilla problem in a heartbeat; all those fancy buffs don't help the caster much, they have to go on the actual people who know what to do with them.&nbsp; In any edition magic weapons and armour simply aren't as useful to a non-fighter - a mace that is +3 when used by a fighter type might be only +1 in the hands of a cleric.And yes the game needs a fighter class.Lan-&quot;without the fighter class I'd have no class at all, and some would say there'd be no difference&quot;-efan</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 6266514, member: 29398"] Note that for the following when I say "fighter" I'm referring to all the warrior-type classes e.g. paladin, cavalier, knight, ranger, etc. as well as the straight fighter class. The problem is that everyone else other than the fighter fights too well, or can be made to fight too well, relative to the fighter. A simple, if not very elegant, solution might be to radically weaken combat buffs and combat-related magic items when used on/by a non-fighter. In 3e this would largely solve the CoDzilla problem in a heartbeat; all those fancy buffs don't help the caster much, they have to go on the actual people who know what to do with them. In any edition magic weapons and armour simply aren't as useful to a non-fighter - a mace that is +3 when used by a fighter type might be only +1 in the hands of a cleric. And yes the game needs a fighter class. Lan-"without the fighter class I'd have no class at all, and some would say there'd be no difference"-efan [/QUOTE]

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