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Message: <blockquote data-quote="the Jester" data-source="post: 5916945" data-attributes="member: 1210">Oh, I dunno- the 4e cosmology is really the core setting more than the Vale itself, and you certainly can't deny that the cosmology got shoved down every 4e setting's throat pretty hard core.Were you around back then? There weren't Intarwebz discussions that I was involved in, but a lot lot lot of gamers used to sit around and gripe about the Time of Troubles. Heck, I liked the original 1e FR grey box a great deal- but ToT destroyed any interest I had in the Realms and nothing ever brought it back (the 3e FRCS book was as close as anything has ever come).You don't need a default setting to have fluff.</blockquote>