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<blockquote data-quote="Fred Delles" data-source="post: 470534" data-attributes="member: 3497"><p>Lost my first post, so I'll make this one short.</p><p></p><p>Other people's alignments totally depend on what you believe. Example: You believe in one thing. You think it is well and good, I think it makes you evil and a heretic. I believe in something else. You think I am a heretic and evil, I believe that it is well and good. Who is the good and evil (or lawful and chaotic) one here?</p><p></p><p>Look at GWB. Ask a hundred people what GWB's alignment is. I guarantee you'll get completely different answers.</p><p></p><p>And even if you knew what GWB's exact thoughts and beliefs were, would you still think of them as lawful or chaotic, good or evil?</p><p></p><p>"He's lawful because his cowboy-like stunts help defeat evil without mercy."</p><p></p><p>"He's chaotic because his American cowboy-ism is risky and rebellious."</p><p></p><p>Again, if you ask a hundred people who know GWB's exact thoughts his alignment , you'll get completely different answers.</p><p></p><p>And think of this: If D&D was created by some other culture, what would they think of as aligned as good/evil?</p><p></p><p>Back to fantasy.</p><p></p><p>Take Viconia from Baldur's Gate (1, 2). She is classified as evil, yet does not act on her evil. Should she be (true) neutral?</p><p></p><p>Why is Viconia evil? Just because she is a drow? Just because she worships an "evil" goddess, albeit passively? She is loyal to you, even if you are lawful good, and begs for you to save her life twice, especially after she did not provoke her captors in spite of her race. Knowing that she was evil, should I just kill her? That is ridiculous prejudice.</p><p></p><p></p><p>And for the folks who want to knock out divinations like "detect evil", giving too much info, you seem to be getting closer to abolishing the alignment system (which I do support).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fred Delles, post: 470534, member: 3497"] Lost my first post, so I'll make this one short. Other people's alignments totally depend on what you believe. Example: You believe in one thing. You think it is well and good, I think it makes you evil and a heretic. I believe in something else. You think I am a heretic and evil, I believe that it is well and good. Who is the good and evil (or lawful and chaotic) one here? Look at GWB. Ask a hundred people what GWB's alignment is. I guarantee you'll get completely different answers. And even if you knew what GWB's exact thoughts and beliefs were, would you still think of them as lawful or chaotic, good or evil? "He's lawful because his cowboy-like stunts help defeat evil without mercy." "He's chaotic because his American cowboy-ism is risky and rebellious." Again, if you ask a hundred people who know GWB's exact thoughts his alignment , you'll get completely different answers. And think of this: If D&D was created by some other culture, what would they think of as aligned as good/evil? Back to fantasy. Take Viconia from Baldur's Gate (1, 2). She is classified as evil, yet does not act on her evil. Should she be (true) neutral? Why is Viconia evil? Just because she is a drow? Just because she worships an "evil" goddess, albeit passively? She is loyal to you, even if you are lawful good, and begs for you to save her life twice, especially after she did not provoke her captors in spite of her race. Knowing that she was evil, should I just kill her? That is ridiculous prejudice. And for the folks who want to knock out divinations like "detect evil", giving too much info, you seem to be getting closer to abolishing the alignment system (which I do support). [/QUOTE]
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