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<blockquote data-quote="Uruush" data-source="post: 480860" data-attributes="member: 42140">I'm the munchkin in question here. (My characters are generally so un-min/max'd it's not funny.)&nbsp; It was a thread on EnWorld that confirmed to me my interpretation.&nbsp; My character has been using the dagger even though he's proficient with longswords because it fit his concept, not for the finesse.&nbsp; I would have built my character with less Wisdom and Charisma if I was trying to take advantage of the rules.&nbsp; I think the PHB is more than confusing on this matter.&nbsp; Why, only for the dagger does it read:&quot;You can use the Weapon Finesse feat to apply your Dexterity modifier instead of your Strength modifier to attack rolls with a dagger.&quot;Why does it not state the above for the Punch Dagger, or for the Lt. Mace, Sickle, Handaxe, Lt Pick, Sap or Shortsword?&nbsp; Those are light weapons too.&nbsp; I certainly don't feel like I'm interpreting this liberally;&nbsp; I just read it and thought, &quot;huh, daggers got finesse, them other weapons you need to buy the feat for.&quot;&nbsp; The thread which confirmed my interpretation was someone asking whether the built-in finesse of the dagger worked for small characters too, since they were only one size bigger than tiny daggers.It sound like my character is illegal, but the PHB didn't make it easy on me...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Uruush, post: 480860, member: 42140"] I'm the munchkin in question here. (My characters are generally so un-min/max'd it's not funny.) It was a thread on EnWorld that confirmed to me my interpretation. My character has been using the dagger even though he's proficient with longswords because it fit his concept, not for the finesse. I would have built my character with less Wisdom and Charisma if I was trying to take advantage of the rules. I think the PHB is more than confusing on this matter. Why, only for the dagger does it read: "You can use the Weapon Finesse feat to apply your Dexterity modifier instead of your Strength modifier to attack rolls with a dagger." Why does it not state the above for the Punch Dagger, or for the Lt. Mace, Sickle, Handaxe, Lt Pick, Sap or Shortsword? Those are light weapons too. I certainly don't feel like I'm interpreting this liberally; I just read it and thought, "huh, daggers got finesse, them other weapons you need to buy the feat for." The thread which confirmed my interpretation was someone asking whether the built-in finesse of the dagger worked for small characters too, since they were only one size bigger than tiny daggers. It sound like my character is illegal, but the PHB didn't make it easy on me... [/QUOTE]

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