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Does damage bypass soak if Vital Defense is targetted?
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<blockquote data-quote="TheHirumaChico" data-source="post: 9007623" data-attributes="member: 7022501"><p>IIRC, Morrus indicated in another thread that VITAL DEFENSE was added later, and so it is sometimes not mentioned when one thinks it perhaps should have been. IMHO, I think SOAK also applies to damage from attacks targeting VITAL DEFENSE. For example, grenades target VITAL DEFENSE, and in my NOW campaign I have ruled that Fragmentation grenades do Force + Ballistic damage, so I would think it is appropriate for body armor to provide some protection against a grenade blast. Tactical and Kevlar vests are ineffective vs. Piercing damage (which I think of a being done by spears and the pointy ends of knives), but effective against Force and Ballistic damage, so I think they would still provide a wearer with the benefit of their SOAK values. Certainly a Bomb suit (blast suit) is designed to be effective vs. explosives, and explosives are one of the most common area-of-effect weapons in a NOW setting. And I have interpreted AoE weapons to mean that they target VITAL DEFENSE in my game.</p><p></p><p>On a side note, the Flak jacket/vest and Bomb suit (blast suit) have better soak vs. "explosives", but I've changed "explosives" in my game to mean "Force" damage, since there are types of explosives that can do more than just "explosive" damage (such as thermobaric weapons, which would do Force + Heat), but the damage done by an "<em>explosion</em>" is what I would term as Force damage.</p><p></p><p>For your other questions, I would think Strafe is not considered as targeting any particular defense because it simply does 1d6 damage to anyone in the affected area <strong><u>automatically</u></strong>. There is no roll to make, so nothing is targeted. If trying to determine whether SOAK is applied, I would say yes it is as I would decide to apply SOAK based on the type of damage being inflicted and not the DEFENSE which was targeted. I also think Scattershot still is making a RANGED attack against two separate targets, it's just allowing the character to do so with the expenditure of just one attack action. Hope this helps, but it's obviously just my $0.02 and not official.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheHirumaChico, post: 9007623, member: 7022501"] IIRC, Morrus indicated in another thread that VITAL DEFENSE was added later, and so it is sometimes not mentioned when one thinks it perhaps should have been. IMHO, I think SOAK also applies to damage from attacks targeting VITAL DEFENSE. For example, grenades target VITAL DEFENSE, and in my NOW campaign I have ruled that Fragmentation grenades do Force + Ballistic damage, so I would think it is appropriate for body armor to provide some protection against a grenade blast. Tactical and Kevlar vests are ineffective vs. Piercing damage (which I think of a being done by spears and the pointy ends of knives), but effective against Force and Ballistic damage, so I think they would still provide a wearer with the benefit of their SOAK values. Certainly a Bomb suit (blast suit) is designed to be effective vs. explosives, and explosives are one of the most common area-of-effect weapons in a NOW setting. And I have interpreted AoE weapons to mean that they target VITAL DEFENSE in my game. On a side note, the Flak jacket/vest and Bomb suit (blast suit) have better soak vs. "explosives", but I've changed "explosives" in my game to mean "Force" damage, since there are types of explosives that can do more than just "explosive" damage (such as thermobaric weapons, which would do Force + Heat), but the damage done by an "[I]explosion[/I]" is what I would term as Force damage. For your other questions, I would think Strafe is not considered as targeting any particular defense because it simply does 1d6 damage to anyone in the affected area [B][U]automatically[/U][/B]. There is no roll to make, so nothing is targeted. If trying to determine whether SOAK is applied, I would say yes it is as I would decide to apply SOAK based on the type of damage being inflicted and not the DEFENSE which was targeted. I also think Scattershot still is making a RANGED attack against two separate targets, it's just allowing the character to do so with the expenditure of just one attack action. Hope this helps, but it's obviously just my $0.02 and not official. [/QUOTE]
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