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<blockquote data-quote="irdeggman" data-source="post: 4878989" data-attributes="member: 16285">And yet the key words &quot;damage dice&quot; are not mentioned in the PHB nor in the Rules Compendium, only in the SRD.When you calculate the damage from a critical hit you always roll extra damage dice for the weapon - that is if a weapon does 1d8 on a confirmed critical it does 2d8 it is not the original roll x2 (which was a common misconception in 3.0 when it first came out).I'm having trouble understanding what you mean when you say the part about damage above the normal weapon damage is in a subsequent paragraph - does that mean that the you are saying that rule is to be ignored?Note that in the PHB, even though it is a subsequent paragraph it is premised by &quot;Exception:&quot; - which to me means it is the exception to the &quot;normal&quot; rule, which is that all applicable modifiers are applied to the damage.I read the part of &quot;not part of weapon's normal damage&quot; meaning not damage associated with the weapon itself (and not a special ability) - that is Str damage (or Dex or Int depending on feats, class abilities, etc.) or enhancement bonuses are part of the weapon's damge itself. Smite, SA, etc. are not.When you say PA does that refer to Precision Attack? If so that is specifically called out as not applicable.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="irdeggman, post: 4878989, member: 16285"] And yet the key words "damage dice" are not mentioned in the PHB nor in the Rules Compendium, only in the SRD. When you calculate the damage from a critical hit you always roll extra damage dice for the weapon - that is if a weapon does 1d8 on a confirmed critical it does 2d8 it is not the original roll x2 (which was a common misconception in 3.0 when it first came out). I'm having trouble understanding what you mean when you say the part about damage above the normal weapon damage is in a subsequent paragraph - does that mean that the you are saying that rule is to be ignored? Note that in the PHB, even though it is a subsequent paragraph it is premised by "Exception:" - which to me means it is the exception to the "normal" rule, which is that all applicable modifiers are applied to the damage. I read the part of "not part of weapon's normal damage" meaning not damage associated with the weapon itself (and not a special ability) - that is Str damage (or Dex or Int depending on feats, class abilities, etc.) or enhancement bonuses are part of the weapon's damge itself. Smite, SA, etc. are not. When you say PA does that refer to Precision Attack? If so that is specifically called out as not applicable. [/QUOTE]

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