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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bagpuss" data-source="post: 3301956" data-attributes="member: 3987">That's odd because then the sentence should read...Damage reduction does not negate melee attacks, ranged attacks, touch attacks, energy damage dealt along with an attack, or energy drains.Because it doesn't actually stop you hitting them with a melee attack even though it negates the damage, and it doesn't stop you hitting them with a ranged attack even though it negates the damage.Exactly both of which are not negated by DR, and both are mentioned as such in the same sentence. Because when this rule was written touch attacks that just did damage did it by weird supernatural means. The most common from of just damage dealing touch attacks are from incorporeal undead. All a ghost has to do is touch you with its corrupting touch and it deals it's damage, by some weird supernatural means like withering or however your DM describes it. It makes prefect sense for these to defeat the DR of Adamantine armour and natural DR of a Barbarian.Remember this was written when Wraithstrike didn't exist, touch attacks defeating DR isn't what is broken it's Wraithstrike. I agree Wraithstrike probably shouldn't defeat certain types of DR, like a natural DR that represents toughness, like a Barbarian or Demons, but it should defeat other types like Adamantine armour which it will pass right through. Which just goes further to show that Wraithstrike is a badly written spell.</blockquote>