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Does defeating an NPC's cohort grant additional XP?
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<blockquote data-quote="irdeggman" data-source="post: 2649068" data-attributes="member: 16285"><p>This was to equate to the discussion pertaining to traps and skill focus: trapmaking. If a character makes better traps due to taking a feat does that character ahve any intrinisically higher CR? No he doesn't, neither does a wizard with a wand of fireballs - that was the point I was trying to make. I hope it didn't further confuse it any here.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Which is why traps have their own CR and yield xp when overcome. Magic items while they don't give xp just by overcoming them they are valuable "booty" that PCs can usually use in the future, at the very least they can sell them for substantial money (considereing they didn't have to spend anything to make them). Cohorts don't yield any effective booty, I still hold to equating them to familiars, animal companions and even special mounts in regards to awarding xp- especially if the "improved" versions are taken using appropriate feats.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>One - that is why Leadership is specifically listed as an "optional" feat for the DM to allow or not with a warning that it may unbalance the game. Hence if a Dm allows the feat into a game and doesn't alow the PC to gain cohorts and followers then he is doing the system an injustice - better to not allow the feat at all if it is not going to be used the way it is written (and obviously intended to be).</p><p></p><p>Two - not all feats are created equal (we agree on that). Leadership is an expensive feat in that it gives a single cohort (up to 2 levels lower than the PC) and some followers. But these are only as useful as the situation that the DM allows them to be used in. If for example the DM has a lot of individual interaction - a cohort is not generally as useful as when used in a dungeon crawl type of setting.</p><p></p><p>Would a rogue with TWF not be much more powerful than one with power attack? I believe the inherent advantage of a rogue using TWF has been covered in great detail on these boards in the past.</p><p></p><p>As far as the feat being a prerequisite for certain prestige classes - well there are plenty of examples where feats like endurance are prerequisites so this is really not a well placed example, IMO.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="irdeggman, post: 2649068, member: 16285"] This was to equate to the discussion pertaining to traps and skill focus: trapmaking. If a character makes better traps due to taking a feat does that character ahve any intrinisically higher CR? No he doesn't, neither does a wizard with a wand of fireballs - that was the point I was trying to make. I hope it didn't further confuse it any here. Which is why traps have their own CR and yield xp when overcome. Magic items while they don't give xp just by overcoming them they are valuable "booty" that PCs can usually use in the future, at the very least they can sell them for substantial money (considereing they didn't have to spend anything to make them). Cohorts don't yield any effective booty, I still hold to equating them to familiars, animal companions and even special mounts in regards to awarding xp- especially if the "improved" versions are taken using appropriate feats. One - that is why Leadership is specifically listed as an "optional" feat for the DM to allow or not with a warning that it may unbalance the game. Hence if a Dm allows the feat into a game and doesn't alow the PC to gain cohorts and followers then he is doing the system an injustice - better to not allow the feat at all if it is not going to be used the way it is written (and obviously intended to be). Two - not all feats are created equal (we agree on that). Leadership is an expensive feat in that it gives a single cohort (up to 2 levels lower than the PC) and some followers. But these are only as useful as the situation that the DM allows them to be used in. If for example the DM has a lot of individual interaction - a cohort is not generally as useful as when used in a dungeon crawl type of setting. Would a rogue with TWF not be much more powerful than one with power attack? I believe the inherent advantage of a rogue using TWF has been covered in great detail on these boards in the past. As far as the feat being a prerequisite for certain prestige classes - well there are plenty of examples where feats like endurance are prerequisites so this is really not a well placed example, IMO. [/QUOTE]
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