Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
NOW LIVE! Today's the day you meet your new best friend. You don’t have to leave Wolfy behind... In 'Pets & Sidekicks' your companions level up with you!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Does DnD encourage racist thinking?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="RSKennan" data-source="post: 507032" data-attributes="member: 8256"><p>While I don't think that the portrayal of D&D races (as different species) is racist, parts of me wonder at the thought processes of many of the fantasy genre's writer/creators. It is true that a great many fantasy and science fiction races are extreme parodies of human traits. I think that drawing these stereotypes large helps to point out how silly they are, as was noted by Orias, but I also feel that they can sometimes serve as an excuse to symbolically bash "undesirable" human traits. There is a reason these races are "humanoid" after all. For me, as long as they are treated as "other species" assigning traits to them for the sake of a game isn't offensive. </p><p></p><p>What I do have a problem with is when a designer deliberately takes a human culture and plops it into the framework of D&D, and puts an evil race into the "niche" of a real world race. That is most certainly ignorant and racist. I've seen it time and time again, and though it might be a simple case of the designer being too unimaginitive to create a realistic culture for the species (orcs or what have you), it still rubs me the wrong way. If you are going to have a direct translation of a real world culture (not merely a human trait- a whole culture, complete with customs) in a mass-market game, at least make them humans! </p><p></p><p>Don't get me wrong, there are going to be unavoidable parellels between fantasy races and real world peoples, since a culture is shaped by its history, and certain themes (opression, war, peace, prosperity, etc) crop up in any world. Of course it's natural to look to how real people have reacted to these events when considering their effects on a fantasy world. </p><p></p><p>So I guess my opinion on the matter walks a fine line. </p><p></p><p>An addendum: In a multiverse where a lion can be crossed with an eagle, or a dragon can mate with a human, there is no reason to think that any of the races are members of the same species or even genus. I think it's more interesting to think that they aren't , and their interbreeding is facilitated by magic. </p><p></p><p>The parents of the first centaurs must have been a cute couple <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RSKennan, post: 507032, member: 8256"] While I don't think that the portrayal of D&D races (as different species) is racist, parts of me wonder at the thought processes of many of the fantasy genre's writer/creators. It is true that a great many fantasy and science fiction races are extreme parodies of human traits. I think that drawing these stereotypes large helps to point out how silly they are, as was noted by Orias, but I also feel that they can sometimes serve as an excuse to symbolically bash "undesirable" human traits. There is a reason these races are "humanoid" after all. For me, as long as they are treated as "other species" assigning traits to them for the sake of a game isn't offensive. What I do have a problem with is when a designer deliberately takes a human culture and plops it into the framework of D&D, and puts an evil race into the "niche" of a real world race. That is most certainly ignorant and racist. I've seen it time and time again, and though it might be a simple case of the designer being too unimaginitive to create a realistic culture for the species (orcs or what have you), it still rubs me the wrong way. If you are going to have a direct translation of a real world culture (not merely a human trait- a whole culture, complete with customs) in a mass-market game, at least make them humans! Don't get me wrong, there are going to be unavoidable parellels between fantasy races and real world peoples, since a culture is shaped by its history, and certain themes (opression, war, peace, prosperity, etc) crop up in any world. Of course it's natural to look to how real people have reacted to these events when considering their effects on a fantasy world. So I guess my opinion on the matter walks a fine line. An addendum: In a multiverse where a lion can be crossed with an eagle, or a dragon can mate with a human, there is no reason to think that any of the races are members of the same species or even genus. I think it's more interesting to think that they aren't , and their interbreeding is facilitated by magic. The parents of the first centaurs must have been a cute couple :D [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Does DnD encourage racist thinking?
Top