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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Desdichado" data-source="post: 507616" data-attributes="member: 2205">I could be (and likely often am.)  But I often treat pedantry with pedantry.  When someone says that you can't have racism in D&D because all these guys are actually different species, they are being pedantic and needlessly obscure in order to avoid the thrust of the question.  So if I treat their incorrect pedantry with correct pedantry to clear away the clutter that surrounds their answer to the question, in reality I'm focusing the topic back on the question at hand.  At least, that's what I'd like to think, although in reality, it leads to tangents in the same thread more often than not.And since when does the "magic" have anything to do with cross-breeding of races?  I have yet to see anything in print to suggest that half-orcs or half-elves are the result of anything other than normal biological processes.  A lot of folks throw that up as evidence of something or another, but since it's never appeared in print anywhere that I know of, I consider it specious and irrelevent.Since, IMO, "magical breeding" is a red hering, and claiming that orcs, etc. aren't races and therefore not subject to racism is incorrect, illogical and irrelevant anyway (who cares if you call it racism or specism anyway -- isn't it exactly the same behavior?  Besides, as I pointed out earlier, at the beginning of this century, most anthropologists believed that the various human races were in fact seperate species.) I think that "standard" D&D does indeed encourage racism against orcs, goblins, etc.  However, since there's no real orcs, goblins, etc. around to be offended by this racism, I don't see what the harm is.  It's up to any given group to decide if they are comfortable or not with allowing racism -- even against fictional races -- in their game.</blockquote>

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