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Message: <blockquote data-quote="deleteme123456" data-source="post: 4651492" data-attributes="member: 65832">I'm mostly worried about the low AC. Even taking leather at level 1, you're looking at 15 AC with most arrays that are being suggested. I went through and gave every class one defensive feat at level 1 if they were likely to meet the prereqs and have a use for it (fighters for example probably won't take plate at level 1 even though many will qualify for it).Assume: 18 in a primary stat (e.g. Rogue, Wizard, S'Mage); 16 in a secondary stat (e.g. Dragon Sorc, Warlock)LEADERSCleric: 17 (chain) + Weapon prof: Parrying Dagger (might not have str 13)Warlord: 18 (scale, light shield). 17 if playing with reach weapons.Artificer: 17 (leather, parrying dagger)Shaman: 16 (int secondary + hide or con secondary + chain)Bard: 17/18 (int build will stay at 17 = 3 hide + 3 int + 1 shield, con build might pick up scale for the extra; neither build likely to have str 15 for heavy shield)STRIKERS:Barbarian: 16 (Assume you can use your secondary stat? Not likely to use defensive feat if so. Hide + Con = 16).Ranger: 17 (Archer, doesn't need feat) / 16 (Melee, Chain)Rogue: 17 (Parrying Dagger or Hide)Warlock: 16 (Parrying Pact Dagger would make my short list.) + concealmentSorc: 15 (Leather, secondary stat)Avenger: 18 (Leather, secondary stat, class feature)DEFENDERSFighter: 19 since most fighters won't take plate at level 1.Pally: 20. What's a defensive feat?Swordmage: 20. Hide. Relatively optional.Warden: 18. No feat. (Hide + 2ary stat + heavy shield) Higher HP than other defenders.CONTROLLER:Wizard: 16/17 (Leather, Staff)Invoker: 17 (hide + int or chain, +1 feat for shield or dagger or defensive staves)Druid: 17 (hide + dex or con, +1 feat for shield or dagger or defensive staves)</blockquote>

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