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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 6789807" data-attributes="member: 6704184"><p>That is certainly one way to interpret the Silver Flame, and if that works in your Eberron games, cool. But that isn't at all how my group has interpreted it, and I don't think it really matches Keith Baker's writing on the subject, either. </p><p>You also seem to have decided that only things which are entirely without corruption are Good, which makes no sense at all to me. The Church of the Silver Flame is definitely good. People make more of influences like Krozen, and the strength of Bel Shalor, who is still very much imprisoned by the Flame, than really makes sense. Krozen and the Whispering Flame stand out exactly because TCSF <em>is</em>, by and large, a force for good with a strong history of protecting the innocent from supernatural evil. It is one of the <em>least</em> corrupt institutions in the setting. </p><p></p><p>An important thing to remember about the Silver Flame is that it is literally fed by optimism and altruism. So, most of the Purified are, to some degree, genuinely optimistic and altruistic. Figures like Krozen and those who listen to the whispers of the imprisoned Bel Shalor are very, very much the exception. And the Aundarian Pure Flame zealots are very much not in the mainstream in the Church. I can't find it because the wotc forums are gone, but I remember Keith Baker saying in a forum post that most of the faithful oppose the Pure Flame <em>and</em> the theocracy. It's just that the Pure Flame has enough power to stick around in Aundair, and the people of Thrane are more in favor of the theocracy, but there is a strong loyalist movement in opposition to the theocracy. </p><p></p><p>Heck, even THrane, as a nation, has a proven history of altruistic behavior.</p><p></p><p>edit: forgot to mention, Bel Shalor isn't a normal demon. The overlords are really more like demonic gods. The fact that the Silver Flame continues to hold Bel Shalor imprisoned is a direct testament to the genuine faith, optimism and altruism of the faithful.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 6789807, member: 6704184"] That is certainly one way to interpret the Silver Flame, and if that works in your Eberron games, cool. But that isn't at all how my group has interpreted it, and I don't think it really matches Keith Baker's writing on the subject, either. You also seem to have decided that only things which are entirely without corruption are Good, which makes no sense at all to me. The Church of the Silver Flame is definitely good. People make more of influences like Krozen, and the strength of Bel Shalor, who is still very much imprisoned by the Flame, than really makes sense. Krozen and the Whispering Flame stand out exactly because TCSF [I]is[/I], by and large, a force for good with a strong history of protecting the innocent from supernatural evil. It is one of the [I]least[/I] corrupt institutions in the setting. An important thing to remember about the Silver Flame is that it is literally fed by optimism and altruism. So, most of the Purified are, to some degree, genuinely optimistic and altruistic. Figures like Krozen and those who listen to the whispers of the imprisoned Bel Shalor are very, very much the exception. And the Aundarian Pure Flame zealots are very much not in the mainstream in the Church. I can't find it because the wotc forums are gone, but I remember Keith Baker saying in a forum post that most of the faithful oppose the Pure Flame [I]and[/I] the theocracy. It's just that the Pure Flame has enough power to stick around in Aundair, and the people of Thrane are more in favor of the theocracy, but there is a strong loyalist movement in opposition to the theocracy. Heck, even THrane, as a nation, has a proven history of altruistic behavior. edit: forgot to mention, Bel Shalor isn't a normal demon. The overlords are really more like demonic gods. The fact that the Silver Flame continues to hold Bel Shalor imprisoned is a direct testament to the genuine faith, optimism and altruism of the faithful. [/QUOTE]
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