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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Quasqueton" data-source="post: 1557546" data-attributes="member: 3854">Quickie reply. . .This is a good point.Isn't there a logical circle of definition followed by the "universal powers that be" (Good, Evil, Law, Chaos, the gods, whatever)? I mean, a paladin is given the ability to see evil, and given the power to smite evil. So someone whom the UPTB have decided is Evil would show up to a paladin's detect ability, and would be vulnerable to a paladin's smite. If the creature was not "evil enough" in the UPTB's "opinion" to be immediately smited, then it shouldn't show up as evil on the detect evil radar.Its like if a class had the ability to detect orc and smite orc. If this class looked at someone and they showed up as "orc", wouldn't that mean that what ever universal power that determines what race a creature is has determined that this particular creature is sufficiently "orc" enough to be identified as such, and smited. Is a half-orc sufficiently "orc" enough to show up on the detect orc ability? If so, doesn't that mean that he is "orc" enough to be immediately smited by the class? If a half-orc is not "orc" enough to be smited, then it shouldn't show up as an "orc" on the detect orc ability.And a quarter-orc creature? If it shows up as "orc" under detect orc scrutiny, then the UPTB condone attacking and killing that creature. If it doesn't show up as "orc", then the UPTB do not support attacking and smiting that creature.Giving a class the ability to detect [any/all] evil and smite [any/all] evil, but then telling them they are restricted to only immediately destroying a small subset of evil, without any tangible way of identifying that subset is wrong. That's why I think evil should be Evil, and open to immediate smiting. Anything not "evil enough" to be immediately smited should not be identified as evil.Another analogy (I'm already late anyway): if a DM introduces a new weapon to the campaign, and classifies it as a martial weapon, then a fighter can pick it up and use it immediately. The DM shouldn't say, no, you can't use *this* martial weapon. If the DM doesn't think the fighter should be able to use it without special training (attention), then he should classify it as an exotic weapon.If a DM doesn't think the paladin should smite this particular person because he isn't "bad" enough to warrent it, then the person should not be classified as evil. Neutral is a good catch all alignment for those who may be often naughty, but are not Evil in the DM's definition.QuasquetonI wrote this fast, so I really hope I made sense.</blockquote>

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