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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 1560409" data-attributes="member: 3146">On the other hand, the notion that people or gods value evil for the sake of evil runs counter to at least one element of the commonsense definition of evil: something blameworthy and to be avoided.Maglubiyet may see himself as evil and may see his followers as evil but he doesn't see them as bad or blameworthy for that reason. There's no evidence that Maglubiyet sees his own evil as a cause for recriminations or regret. In fact, he sees the evil of his followers as cause for praise and the bestowal of divine abilities. So [Evil] may be evil but, according to Maglubiyet, it's not bad. It's little-g good to be evil.  Similarly, according to Maglubiyet, it's bad to be [Good]. Maglubiyet and the evil gods of D&D could accurately say with Milton's Satan, "Farewell remorse: all good to me is lost; Evilbe thou my Good."To be sure, D&D good and evil correspond roughly to (portions of) real world good and evil. However, D&D good and evil primarily encompass the descriptions of behavior that would be considered good or evil IRL. (Murder is evil IRL and it's evil in D&D; risking one's life to save others is good IRL and good in D&D). They don't incorporate the emotive or praise/blame aspects of good and evil (which are relative in D&D as discussed above).(IMO, the D&D cosmology Law and Chaos aren't objective no matter what the rulebooks say. As described, they come out to a bunch of incoherent nonsense).</blockquote>

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