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Does Exceptional Deflection count against Magic Missiles?
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<blockquote data-quote="javcs" data-source="post: 3251238" data-attributes="member: 43677"><p>Check out the 'weapon-like spells' section of CArc.</p><p></p><p>You can't deflect something unless it's ranged attack, you must look at the deflect arrows description as well to help clarify this.</p><p></p><p>Boulders and spell effects that are ranged attacks can't be deflected with deflect arrows.</p><p>Exceptional deflection permits you to deflect boulders, and other unusual ranged attacks, including spells that require attack rolls. That's to include stuff, albeit unintentionally, that a hulking hurler could throw around. Yeah, it's weird looking, deflecting a house, but, y'know . . .</p><p></p><p>The only reason that magic missile breaks invisibility is because its 'effect', as it were, "includes" an opponent.</p><p></p><p>Because MM does not require an attack roll, there is no way that it could miss, part of the 'unerringly striking' the target, if it could miss, and be deflected, it would require an attack roll.</p><p></p><p>What Exceptional Deflection permits you to do is to deflect anything requiring a ranged attack roll.</p><p>If it didn't, you would get people wanting to deflect fireballs, breath weapons, etc. (if MM counts as a ranged attack, they do as well).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="javcs, post: 3251238, member: 43677"] Check out the 'weapon-like spells' section of CArc. You can't deflect something unless it's ranged attack, you must look at the deflect arrows description as well to help clarify this. Boulders and spell effects that are ranged attacks can't be deflected with deflect arrows. Exceptional deflection permits you to deflect boulders, and other unusual ranged attacks, including spells that require attack rolls. That's to include stuff, albeit unintentionally, that a hulking hurler could throw around. Yeah, it's weird looking, deflecting a house, but, y'know . . . The only reason that magic missile breaks invisibility is because its 'effect', as it were, "includes" an opponent. Because MM does not require an attack roll, there is no way that it could miss, part of the 'unerringly striking' the target, if it could miss, and be deflected, it would require an attack roll. What Exceptional Deflection permits you to do is to deflect anything requiring a ranged attack roll. If it didn't, you would get people wanting to deflect fireballs, breath weapons, etc. (if MM counts as a ranged attack, they do as well). [/QUOTE]
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