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Message: <blockquote data-quote="keterys" data-source="post: 5003389" data-attributes="member: 43019">If anyone is inflating it beyond a difference of up to 4 to attack vs. monster defenses, then they are wrong. That said, a delta of 4 is a notable amount on a d20 and acting as if it were not is as meaningless as someone who acts as if the lack of Expertise somehow means they need 19s to hit. (As an aside, the difference for PC defenses can actually end up being closer to 7 for abilities that do not get stat bumps, but this discussion is about Expertise)So, yes, there is an increasing gap between attacks and defenses, wrt to PCs and monsters, as you get higher and higher level. This gap does not appear to be on purpose, based on WotC's statements and actions. Expertise is one approach to bridging this gap.This gap is hardly insurmountable and you may do nothing, take the feat(s), or house rule, as suits your group. Neither is it a design feature or revelation. It is a design problem, but not one that is going to wreck your game. That doesn't make it unworthy of fixing, nor does it make WotC's fix unflawed.Hopefully that covered the relevant details.</blockquote>