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Message: <blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 6185909" data-attributes="member: 22424">Not since the incident with the fireball experiment...Strictly speaking, the penalty is still there - it's just that in cases of total concealment (as in full darkness), there's generally no need to roll to Hide. But if the other person had Darkvision (or could otherwise see in the dark), the penalty would still apply. Of course, then they'd also be able to see the glitter.(It's perhaps also worth noting that invisbility gives a +40 bonus to Hide checks. I think that's where glitterdust's penalty comes from - it's in place to cancel the previous bonus.)</blockquote>