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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dracuwulf" data-source="post: 1177823" data-attributes="member: 14475">Here's something I found interesting.  These are quotes for the ranger, assassin, and shadowdancer:Hide in Plain Sight (Ex): While in any sort of natural terrain, a ranger of 17th level or higher can use the Hide skill even while being observed.Hide in Plain Sight (Su): At 8th level, an assassin can use the Hide skill even while being observed. As long as he is within 10 feet of some sort of shadow, an assassin can hide himself from view in the open without having anything to actually hide behind.  He cannot, however, hide in his own shadow.Hide in Plain Sight (Su): A shadowdancer can use the Hide skill even while being observed. As long as she is within 10 feet of some sort of shadow, a shadowdancer can hide herself from view in the open without anything to actually hide behind. She cannot, however, hide in her own shadow.Notice that the Assassin and Shadowdancer have Hide in Plain Sight as a supernatural (magically-based) ability while the ranger does not.  It seems like the ranger's is not really like the other two versions at all.  He can only hide while being observed, but apparently he still must meet the requirements for cover or concealment, while the other two can apparently ignore that requirement.OK here is a question.  A Rogue using Hide is in a 30 x 30 room.  The first 10 feet from each wall is under shadowy illumination, giving him concealment, while the rest of the room is brightly lit.  Two humans are fighting in the center of the room.  Can the rogue move out of the shadowy illumination, into the brightly illuminated area where the two are fighting, and sneak attack one of them, as long as he does it in the same round he made the Hide check?</blockquote>

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