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<blockquote data-quote="Silveras" data-source="post: 1177874" data-attributes="member: 6271"><p>The Hide skill says the Ranger does not need cover or concealment, but I think the general rule of "more specific references take precedence" in the Errata means that the description in the Ranger class feature is the one to use. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> Technically, no. Coming out into the light means he has left his hiding place, and revealed himself. He is no longer hidden, and does not get the benefit of the sneak attack damage. </p><p></p><p> You <strong>could</strong> house-rule otherwise, and say that with a successful Move Silently opposed by the target's Listen, he can get there in the same round and remain undetected. </p><p></p><p> The general idea, though, is that the Rogue would use the melee attack when the target was moving through the same shadows as the Rogue. Scene: Fred the Fighter has been told to go find Reggie the Rogue. Reggie was last seen in the dockside section of town. Fred is looking under the docks, and was stupid enough not to bring a lantern. Reggie is hiding in the shadows. As Fred passes next to Reggie, Fred does not see the hidden Rogue. Reggie makes an attack, and Fred's eye close, permanently. </p><p></p><p> Note, however, that in the example case the Rogue can stay in the shadows and throw a dagger. This a ranged sneak attack, and gets the sneak attack bonus damage. He can then make a new Hide check at -20 to return to hiding, and repeat the process next round. </p><p></p><p> Also, if the Rogue left the shadows and closed in on the target from the opposite side as the other fighter, the Rogue would get the sneak attack damage because the other fighter is flanking the target.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Silveras, post: 1177874, member: 6271"] The Hide skill says the Ranger does not need cover or concealment, but I think the general rule of "more specific references take precedence" in the Errata means that the description in the Ranger class feature is the one to use. Technically, no. Coming out into the light means he has left his hiding place, and revealed himself. He is no longer hidden, and does not get the benefit of the sneak attack damage. You [B]could[/B] house-rule otherwise, and say that with a successful Move Silently opposed by the target's Listen, he can get there in the same round and remain undetected. The general idea, though, is that the Rogue would use the melee attack when the target was moving through the same shadows as the Rogue. Scene: Fred the Fighter has been told to go find Reggie the Rogue. Reggie was last seen in the dockside section of town. Fred is looking under the docks, and was stupid enough not to bring a lantern. Reggie is hiding in the shadows. As Fred passes next to Reggie, Fred does not see the hidden Rogue. Reggie makes an attack, and Fred's eye close, permanently. Note, however, that in the example case the Rogue can stay in the shadows and throw a dagger. This a ranged sneak attack, and gets the sneak attack bonus damage. He can then make a new Hide check at -20 to return to hiding, and repeat the process next round. Also, if the Rogue left the shadows and closed in on the target from the opposite side as the other fighter, the Rogue would get the sneak attack damage because the other fighter is flanking the target. [/QUOTE]
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