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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dr. Strangemonkey" data-source="post: 428902" data-attributes="member: 6533">Progress and OrderHmmm, there has been much talk of the limitations magic might or might not impose on a societies ability to progress.Me, I'm not much for progression.  I mean every society reacts to its internal and external circumstances and its history, so every society changes as these change, and that does seem to me progression. People in the early middle ages ate more meat, lived in less crowded conditions, managed to do away with massive levels of slavery, created the spiritual institutions I live with today, and used sustainable systems of agriculture that kept Europe well fed without drastically changing its eco-systems until the advent of modern capitalism destroyed all that.  On the other hand we now refer to the early medieval period as the 'dark ages' because we prefer the idea of living in the classical period.My overall feeling is that societies move acording to what they know and what they value.  My thoughts entering this thread were to play with the idea of how the addition of magical knowledge would effect that progresion.With the addendum of society valuing magic as well as knowing it.Now I could see the argument that the essential change that lead to the early modern period was a new found valuation of knowledge, and that a society that values magic still values knowledge and would make similar choices.  Thus the interesting aspects of this 'mind game.'The above is simply my way of getting around the progress issue.  Also: The golems in the book were useful because they were strategic couriers.  Similar wisdom to cowboys using mules to go long distances quickly.  They're just tougher than thoroughbreds.</blockquote>

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