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<blockquote data-quote="3catcircus" data-source="post: 2203591" data-attributes="member: 16077">One thing I've noticed is that once you get up around 11th-12th level, things go from &quot;too easy&quot; to &quot;too hard&quot; because the players always equate enthusiasm with capability.&nbsp; I can recall, being a player in a campaign that *started* at 12th level.&nbsp; A few of the other players were complaining that they were levelling so slow (4-5 sessions and hadn't advanced to 13th level) since we were mostly fighting orcs, giants, treants, etc.&nbsp; So - the DM threw a level-appropriate encounter at us using a single monster (a dragon in an underground cavern, IIRC) and it creamed us - we ended up running away.Granted, we *started* at 12th level, but even still, you generally blow through the 1st 10 levels and usually still haven't figured how best to use your PCs resources and work as a team.Typically, when fighting a horde of low-level beasties that is level-appropriate, the PCs easily win out.&nbsp; When fighting a fewer number of tougher, but level-appropriate monsters, the PCs usually get their asses handed to them.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="3catcircus, post: 2203591, member: 16077"] One thing I've noticed is that once you get up around 11th-12th level, things go from "too easy" to "too hard" because the players always equate enthusiasm with capability. I can recall, being a player in a campaign that *started* at 12th level. A few of the other players were complaining that they were levelling so slow (4-5 sessions and hadn't advanced to 13th level) since we were mostly fighting orcs, giants, treants, etc. So - the DM threw a level-appropriate encounter at us using a single monster (a dragon in an underground cavern, IIRC) and it creamed us - we ended up running away. Granted, we *started* at 12th level, but even still, you generally blow through the 1st 10 levels and usually still haven't figured how best to use your PCs resources and work as a team. Typically, when fighting a horde of low-level beasties that is level-appropriate, the PCs easily win out. When fighting a fewer number of tougher, but level-appropriate monsters, the PCs usually get their asses handed to them. [/QUOTE]

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