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<blockquote data-quote="Runestar" data-source="post: 4358437" data-attributes="member: 72317">I suppose you could say that it is a ring of fire or something, or that the ball is hollow. Though you technically have to pass through the flaming sphere to be able to stand inside it (and should logically take fire damage at least once), but so long as you start your turn adjacent to it...There is no shame here really. However, this does make me wonder when one ought to insert common sense into a rules argument, and when common sense should be disregarded in favour of rules that were clearly not designed with realism in mind.The rules for instance, seem to allow for square fireballs with no apparent height limitation (more like a column of flame than a ball of fire), so you can evidently fireball the horde of enemies hovering miles overhead simply by blasting the floor beneath them. Is this how the rules are meant to work (in that 4e is more like a 3D game with a 2D battlefield), or should we adjudicate using common sense (which may then cause the spells to work differently from the way they were intended to)?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Runestar, post: 4358437, member: 72317"] I suppose you could say that it is a ring of fire or something, or that the ball is hollow. Though you technically have to pass through the flaming sphere to be able to stand inside it (and should logically take fire damage at least once), but so long as you start your turn adjacent to it... There is no shame here really. However, this does make me wonder when one ought to insert common sense into a rules argument, and when common sense should be disregarded in favour of rules that were clearly not designed with realism in mind. The rules for instance, seem to allow for square fireballs with no apparent height limitation (more like a column of flame than a ball of fire), so you can evidently fireball the horde of enemies hovering miles overhead simply by blasting the floor beneath them. Is this how the rules are meant to work (in that 4e is more like a 3D game with a 2D battlefield), or should we adjudicate using common sense (which may then cause the spells to work differently from the way they were intended to)? [/QUOTE]

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