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Does Mage of the Arcane Order make it easier to qualify for Loremaster?
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<blockquote data-quote="Jack Simth" data-source="post: 2483579" data-attributes="member: 29252"><p>With Loremaster, the requirement is not listed as "known spells"; it is listed as "able to cast", unlike Archmage (which specifies "Knoweledge of 5th level or higher" spells). It's probably a difference of classes that are normally permitted into the class - a Cleric, for example, can't really be said to "know" his spells (at least not in the same sense the a wizard, sorceror, or bard does) but a cleric can cast spells of up to X level, provided his level is high enough to have a slot at that level, the cleric has a sufficiently high wisdom score, and it is on a list the cleric has access to.</p><p></p><p>Or a wand, or wonderous item, or certain other nifties; but consider, a character can use a benefit from a magic item to qualify for such things as feats (such as a +Str belt to qualify for Power Attack) with the caveat that if the character ever loses access to the item (such as that belt of strength) then they also lose access to the feat it was used as a pre-requisite for. With a scroll, if the character ever used it, the character would no longer qualify.</p><p></p><p>With the spellpool, it's available until the caster lets his spellpool debt get too high, doesn't pay his dues, doesn't show when required at the headquarters, et cetera - simply casting a spell from the spellpool leaves it available. Would you deny a cleric the Loremaster benifits because he no longer has at least seven different divination spells prepared (or deny him entry to loremaster for that reason)? He could still cast them, it would just have to wait until tomorrow....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jack Simth, post: 2483579, member: 29252"] With Loremaster, the requirement is not listed as "known spells"; it is listed as "able to cast", unlike Archmage (which specifies "Knoweledge of 5th level or higher" spells). It's probably a difference of classes that are normally permitted into the class - a Cleric, for example, can't really be said to "know" his spells (at least not in the same sense the a wizard, sorceror, or bard does) but a cleric can cast spells of up to X level, provided his level is high enough to have a slot at that level, the cleric has a sufficiently high wisdom score, and it is on a list the cleric has access to. Or a wand, or wonderous item, or certain other nifties; but consider, a character can use a benefit from a magic item to qualify for such things as feats (such as a +Str belt to qualify for Power Attack) with the caveat that if the character ever loses access to the item (such as that belt of strength) then they also lose access to the feat it was used as a pre-requisite for. With a scroll, if the character ever used it, the character would no longer qualify. With the spellpool, it's available until the caster lets his spellpool debt get too high, doesn't pay his dues, doesn't show when required at the headquarters, et cetera - simply casting a spell from the spellpool leaves it available. Would you deny a cleric the Loremaster benifits because he no longer has at least seven different divination spells prepared (or deny him entry to loremaster for that reason)? He could still cast them, it would just have to wait until tomorrow.... [/QUOTE]
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