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<blockquote data-quote="Xeviat" data-source="post: 6705427" data-attributes="member: 57494"><p>Chainmail is better AC than scale mail unless you have a Dex of 14, when they're equal. If you're going to have a Dex of 14, then go for scale mail. Super. You're even. That's what I've been talking about. Outside options, like feats and saves frankly, are a separate issue.</p><p></p><p>IF a dex-focused character (one who uses dex as their attack stat) isn't pumping dex, then they are willfully choosing some sort of trade off. Their attack bonus will drop relative to the ACs of higher CR foes. Since feats are balanced against primary stat increases largely, it could be a fair trade off. Again, that's a separate issue. You don't need to slip in veiled insults of people's DMing styles: "if you run games where the only challenge players encounter have stat blocks ..."</p><p></p><p>Medium Armor Master requires a Dex of 16 to optimize it. For a dex focused character that has access to medium armor, it's a feat for +1 AC, or +2 AC if you were using breast plate and you switch up to half-plate. It's a nice feat. It's still a feat; if we're going to compare feats, then heavies get heavy armor mastery.</p><p></p><p>I have a hard time believing that a cleric will be pushing Dex 16. Most rangers will, so it's an attractive feat for them. Barbarians likely won't, as they are double rewarded for pumping Con. But, again, you're comparing feats, which should be balanced against their opportunity cost. If you have the 15 Strength, and you don't care about stealth, then Heavily Armored is going to be a better feat anyway (same AC and an extra +1 to str or con).</p><p></p><p>If what you're saying is that medium armor exists for those who don't have heavy and aren't dex focused, I can almost get behind that, if it weren't for medium armor being exactly even in AC/stealth to Light or Heavy armor.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Xeviat, post: 6705427, member: 57494"] Chainmail is better AC than scale mail unless you have a Dex of 14, when they're equal. If you're going to have a Dex of 14, then go for scale mail. Super. You're even. That's what I've been talking about. Outside options, like feats and saves frankly, are a separate issue. IF a dex-focused character (one who uses dex as their attack stat) isn't pumping dex, then they are willfully choosing some sort of trade off. Their attack bonus will drop relative to the ACs of higher CR foes. Since feats are balanced against primary stat increases largely, it could be a fair trade off. Again, that's a separate issue. You don't need to slip in veiled insults of people's DMing styles: "if you run games where the only challenge players encounter have stat blocks ..." Medium Armor Master requires a Dex of 16 to optimize it. For a dex focused character that has access to medium armor, it's a feat for +1 AC, or +2 AC if you were using breast plate and you switch up to half-plate. It's a nice feat. It's still a feat; if we're going to compare feats, then heavies get heavy armor mastery. I have a hard time believing that a cleric will be pushing Dex 16. Most rangers will, so it's an attractive feat for them. Barbarians likely won't, as they are double rewarded for pumping Con. But, again, you're comparing feats, which should be balanced against their opportunity cost. If you have the 15 Strength, and you don't care about stealth, then Heavily Armored is going to be a better feat anyway (same AC and an extra +1 to str or con). If what you're saying is that medium armor exists for those who don't have heavy and aren't dex focused, I can almost get behind that, if it weren't for medium armor being exactly even in AC/stealth to Light or Heavy armor. [/QUOTE]
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