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Message: <blockquote data-quote="shoak1" data-source="post: 6706277" data-attributes="member: 54380">I think 3.5 had it much closer to being right.  Armor check penalties from 0-10 affecting all kinds of skills like swim, climb, tumble, balance, etc...you know, the skills that it MADE SENSE would be hindered by hvy armor....5e simplifies everything, and in the process, made med.armor close to useless (from an optimization standpoint).  In the 5e world of bounded accuracy, the +10 ac of plate/shield is just OP in comparison.So in our 5e game we have house ruled that armor giving DIS to stealth also gives it to most all acrobatics, sleight, and athletics checks, as well as DEX saves and checks.  So swim in hvy armor=suck.  climb in hvy armor=suck.  jump in hvy armor=suck.  pick pocket in hvy armor (lol)=suck.  initiative in hvy armor=suck (gee yes, you would be a bit slower afoot, plus helm reducing vision/periphereral, etc).  It just makes sense.we also house ruled that plate armor is only ac+7 unless you have hvy armor master, then +8.  also no magic shields to stack their bonuses w/magic armor.it still leaves half the specific armor types less optimized than the others, but then as a DM i dont have magic items found be always optimized, so ring mail and splint mail are dropped as often as plate.</blockquote>