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Does metamagic apply to wands/staves/etc like in O5e?
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<blockquote data-quote="noodohs" data-source="post: 8676487" data-attributes="member: 7033037"><p>Thanks, that is good to know. However, that first one specifies "as if you knew it," so that makes sense to me, but the others aren't terribly clear that it is you casting it and not the item. Would be nice to have a line in that Trials and Treasures section on using spells from an item that codifies that a little better. Right now, we have this:</p><p></p><p>"Many magic items <strong>grant the creature using them the ability to cast</strong> one or more spells."</p><p>Okay, so it grants me, the user, the ability to cast the spell. This implies (but doesn't explicitly state) that the user casts the spell, not the item. But...</p><p></p><p>"Unless stated otherwise, <strong>a spell cast from a magic item</strong> is cast at the lowest possible spell level, and it requires no components or spell slots."</p><p>Well now it explicitly states the spell is cast from the magic item, so that's confusing.</p><p></p><p>"The spell uses its normal rules unless the item describes a change to how the spell functions..."</p><p>Okay, I mean I guess this could be read to indicate that metamagic can apply, but again not super clear. So I guess my point is just a line that indicates that casting a spell from an item works the same as if the user cast the spell without the item would really solidify the ruling. And/or saying that casting the spell uses the "Cast a spell" action and not the "Interact with an object" action. For future errata consideration.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="noodohs, post: 8676487, member: 7033037"] Thanks, that is good to know. However, that first one specifies "as if you knew it," so that makes sense to me, but the others aren't terribly clear that it is you casting it and not the item. Would be nice to have a line in that Trials and Treasures section on using spells from an item that codifies that a little better. Right now, we have this: "Many magic items [B]grant the creature using them the ability to cast[/B] one or more spells." Okay, so it grants me, the user, the ability to cast the spell. This implies (but doesn't explicitly state) that the user casts the spell, not the item. But... "Unless stated otherwise, [B]a spell cast from a magic item[/B] is cast at the lowest possible spell level, and it requires no components or spell slots." Well now it explicitly states the spell is cast from the magic item, so that's confusing. "The spell uses its normal rules unless the item describes a change to how the spell functions..." Okay, I mean I guess this could be read to indicate that metamagic can apply, but again not super clear. So I guess my point is just a line that indicates that casting a spell from an item works the same as if the user cast the spell without the item would really solidify the ruling. And/or saying that casting the spell uses the "Cast a spell" action and not the "Interact with an object" action. For future errata consideration. [/QUOTE]
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