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<blockquote data-quote="Gus L" data-source="post: 9530324" data-attributes="member: 7045072">So I'd suggest that games like Mutant Future, Stars Without Number, and Into the Odd were OSR. The concept that a) departing from a fantasy setting b) departing from D&amp;D mechanics or pre-1982 (choose whichever arbitrary date one likes prior to 3.5E) are both recent attempts eliminate a large part of the 2010 - 2020 OSR scene, and are based on definitions directly form 4chan. The entire &quot;OSR-adjacent&quot; concept is a post-OSR (as in post 2020) one not an OSR one. I even more strongly object to the idea that G+ OSR is somehow &quot;NuSR&quot; - rejecting everything post 2010 or so as not OSR is a very big step that doesn't make a lot of sense, given the utter lack of size and spread of the OSR before this. I'd also point out that &quot;NuSR &quot;is a label used derogatorily to describe NSR or often simply people who play OSR style games but aren't either socially or politically conservative.&nbsp; I wouldn't use it unless I was trying to start fights.&nbsp; It's sort of like describing 5E as &quot;princess play&quot; - though I don't think Eero of Muster was aiming to insult anyone (much).Otherwise the post makes sense to me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Gus L, post: 9530324, member: 7045072"] So I'd suggest that games like Mutant Future, Stars Without Number, and Into the Odd were OSR. The concept that a) departing from a fantasy setting b) departing from D&D mechanics or pre-1982 (choose whichever arbitrary date one likes prior to 3.5E) are both recent attempts eliminate a large part of the 2010 - 2020 OSR scene, and are based on definitions directly form 4chan. The entire "OSR-adjacent" concept is a post-OSR (as in post 2020) one not an OSR one. I even more strongly object to the idea that G+ OSR is somehow "NuSR" - rejecting everything post 2010 or so as not OSR is a very big step that doesn't make a lot of sense, given the utter lack of size and spread of the OSR before this. I'd also point out that "NuSR "is a label used derogatorily to describe NSR or often simply people who play OSR style games but aren't either socially or politically conservative. I wouldn't use it unless I was trying to start fights. It's sort of like describing 5E as "princess play" - though I don't think Eero of Muster was aiming to insult anyone (much). Otherwise the post makes sense to me. [/QUOTE]

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