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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mannahnin" data-source="post: 9666277" data-attributes="member: 7026594">I'll disagree with you slightly there. Retroclones were born from the OSR, but it didn't come into being for them.It was originally more a movement (mostly on forums) of re-examining and re-celebrating old school D&D, mostly AD&D 1E and OD&D, though B/X got super popular later.  It was formed from a confluence of old schoolers who never left the TSR editions, and grown adults who had come back to the hobby around 3E, then decided they wanted to go back to the old school stuff.  By around 2004 you got folks like T. Foster talking about it as a movement and first starting to put a name to it, and the retroclones started popping up in 2005.  Yes, OSRIC was indeed originally meant to facilitate the publishing of new material for AD&D (which Dragonsfoot was already doing, but OSRIC was meant to put it on a more solid legal footing and facilitate people actually being able to sell modules, IIRC).  As far back as I can remember, the forums (where the movement originated) always had sub-forums for other old school games, too, though they were ancillary and discussion centered on (A)D&D.I getcha.  It's actually [USER=7045072]@Gus L[/USER] who (around here, at least) has mostly talked about us being in a post-OSR state now.  He is a well-respected <a href="https://dungeonofsigns.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">blogger </a>and <a href="https://alldeadgenerations.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">adventure designer</a> who was super active in the OSR while it was in its most creative and energetic states.  I'm a mere hanger-on and enthusiast who missed out on a bunch of it in part because I stuck to the blogs and forums during the Google+ years of the movement.I do like the sub-labels, like NSR.  I don't think they're pejorative at all, and I like having (slightly) more accurate names for things.Yes, it's frustrating.  And as D&D players of any stripe, the fervor for taxonomy has been indoctrinated into us from an early, impressionable age.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f606.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":LOL:" title="Laugh    :LOL:"  data-smilie="17"data-shortname=":LOL:" /></blockquote>

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