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Does Opportunity Action + MBA = Opportunity Attack?
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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5376139" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>Yes, but you still haven't addressed the nut of the issue DS, which is that the circumstances where they are actually used in practice tend to be IDENTICAL types of situations. There is a distinction here without a difference. I FULLY understand the action vs what is done with that action distinction, no matter how many times you try to tell me I don't, so can you just stop bothering to insult my understanding of the rules? It doesn't actually help your argument any. Given the HUGE number of times this confusing topic has shown up on EVERY board that discusses 4e rules I'm sorry but I can't possibly agree with you that it isn't confusing to a substantial segment of the 4e playing population. You can keep arguing it isn't confusing to YOU and maybe isn't confusing to YOUR players, but it QUITE obviously IS confusing to MANY others. There was just no fundamental reason why when the game was designed this kind of arbitrary difference had to be codified into the rules. ALL Opportunity Actions that result in Basic Attacks should have been treated equally. It would have made the distinction irrelevant in actual play and been more sensible and consistent for the players. It isn't a giant big deal but it is a source of annoyance and 4e tends to present these strange and annoying distinctions quite often. The oft maligned fact that non-STR based classes suck at OAs for instance is another relatively similar oddity that gets under a lot of people's skin.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 5376139, member: 82106"] Yes, but you still haven't addressed the nut of the issue DS, which is that the circumstances where they are actually used in practice tend to be IDENTICAL types of situations. There is a distinction here without a difference. I FULLY understand the action vs what is done with that action distinction, no matter how many times you try to tell me I don't, so can you just stop bothering to insult my understanding of the rules? It doesn't actually help your argument any. Given the HUGE number of times this confusing topic has shown up on EVERY board that discusses 4e rules I'm sorry but I can't possibly agree with you that it isn't confusing to a substantial segment of the 4e playing population. You can keep arguing it isn't confusing to YOU and maybe isn't confusing to YOUR players, but it QUITE obviously IS confusing to MANY others. There was just no fundamental reason why when the game was designed this kind of arbitrary difference had to be codified into the rules. ALL Opportunity Actions that result in Basic Attacks should have been treated equally. It would have made the distinction irrelevant in actual play and been more sensible and consistent for the players. It isn't a giant big deal but it is a source of annoyance and 4e tends to present these strange and annoying distinctions quite often. The oft maligned fact that non-STR based classes suck at OAs for instance is another relatively similar oddity that gets under a lot of people's skin. [/QUOTE]
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