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Does Opportunity Action + MBA = Opportunity Attack?
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<blockquote data-quote="fanboy2000" data-source="post: 5376416" data-attributes="member: 19998"><p>I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to disagree with you. It's always been my understanding that an opportunity attack was a kind of opportunity action. I.e., that there were other (or would be other) opportunity actions that weren't opportunity attacks. IIRC, this was clearly stated in the rules quick reference that came with Keep on the Shadowfell. (Which is when I started playing 4e.) </p><p></p><p>The PHB also makes it clear that an opportunity action is an action type. (It's listed under action types with triggers, pg 268.) Also the "Actions in Combat" table on pg 289 in the PHB lists opportunity actions in the same manner it lists standard actions and move actions. That table lists Opportunity attack as an opportunity action.</p><p></p><p>This isn't a recent change. Sure, the Rules Compendium and Heroes of the Fallen Lands both use the power format for opportunity attacks, but they do that for grab and bull rush too. </p><p></p><p>That said, if a person is learning the rules at the table, it can be confusing because opportunity attacks are often the only kinds of opportunity actions PCs used. Sometimes I slip and still call them attacks of opportunity. </p><p></p><p>I'm sorry, but you are wrong. PHB1, pages 268 and 290. At no point does it say that an opportunity attack is any attack made using an opportunity action. In fact, it says the opposite. The only reference the PHB makes to opportunity attacks are to the opportunity attacks detailed on page 290.</p><p></p><p>All the rules sources I'm aware of don't define opportunity attacks the way you do. </p><p></p><p>For all the flack Wizard's gets for it's errata, this hasn't really changed since the new edition came out.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fanboy2000, post: 5376416, member: 19998"] I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to disagree with you. It's always been my understanding that an opportunity attack was a kind of opportunity action. I.e., that there were other (or would be other) opportunity actions that weren't opportunity attacks. IIRC, this was clearly stated in the rules quick reference that came with Keep on the Shadowfell. (Which is when I started playing 4e.) The PHB also makes it clear that an opportunity action is an action type. (It's listed under action types with triggers, pg 268.) Also the "Actions in Combat" table on pg 289 in the PHB lists opportunity actions in the same manner it lists standard actions and move actions. That table lists Opportunity attack as an opportunity action. This isn't a recent change. Sure, the Rules Compendium and Heroes of the Fallen Lands both use the power format for opportunity attacks, but they do that for grab and bull rush too. That said, if a person is learning the rules at the table, it can be confusing because opportunity attacks are often the only kinds of opportunity actions PCs used. Sometimes I slip and still call them attacks of opportunity. I'm sorry, but you are wrong. PHB1, pages 268 and 290. At no point does it say that an opportunity attack is any attack made using an opportunity action. In fact, it says the opposite. The only reference the PHB makes to opportunity attacks are to the opportunity attacks detailed on page 290. All the rules sources I'm aware of don't define opportunity attacks the way you do. For all the flack Wizard's gets for it's errata, this hasn't really changed since the new edition came out. [/QUOTE]
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