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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 2241671" data-attributes="member: 478">The size rule, too: "You can’t cause a subject to assume a form smaller than Fine..." <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />As I said, "bacteria", people tried stuff like that in 3.0, that's why I think it was some kind of "overreaction" in adding such a redundant restriction in. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />BTW, I was reading the Polymorph Any Object spell today. Quite interesting.It says, it works just like Polymorph, but mentions nothing about lifting a size restriction. It even has a similar wording in the first sentence: "This spell functions like polymorph, except that it changes one object or creature into another."Yet, it's crystal clear from the spell description/examples, that you can alter size more than one step: "Pebble to human", "Shrew to manticore", etc.And I'd bet, that the same person was responsible for this whole line of spells, so there is a rather clear indicator for the beforementioned intent by this very person, even if you don't accept the RotG article as such.If we would follow your logic with this spell, the spell would not work as described, because most of the guidelines would fall outside of the restrictions inherited by Alter Self, mostly the size limitation. Therefore your logic cannot be right, obviously.This alone is IMHO enough proof, that I can now clearly say, that my reading is the correct one. It's not even just one viable option, it is how the spell works.ByeThanee</blockquote>

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