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<blockquote data-quote="RigaMortus" data-source="post: 1365673" data-attributes="member: 1077"><p>Alright, well here is a scenario I'm talking about... I'll borrow from your scenario...</p><p></p><p>So the shop keeper wants to sell this sword to the PC. The PC lost his sword in a battle with a rust monster, so he really does need a sword now. Well, what the PC doesn't know is, it's a cursed sword, and the shop keeper is cursed. The only way to lift the curse is if someone willingly takes the sword. So the shop keeper is trying desperately to get rid of it. However, the shop keeper is so insistant about selling the sword, the PC gets a little leary of purchasing it. He rolls sense motive as you suggested, but can't catch this guy in a lie, and can't seem to get any more info out of him about the sword. He really has no reason to disbeleive him, and he really does need a sword, but the player decides that there is just something going on here with the shop keeper, and decides not to buy the sword.</p><p></p><p>To me, this is like a Catch 22. There really is no reason why the CHARACTER shouldn't buy the sword. He can afford the sword, he's be getting a good deal on it, and he does need a replacement one. But he didn't need to roll sense motive to notice how insistant the shop keeper was being, that was sort of obvious. So what is the correct "roleplay" response? Either the dice dictates that the character should have bought the sword, as there was no reason he shouldn't have. OR it doesn't matter what you rolled on Sense Motive, the player is going to do what he wants to do anyway.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RigaMortus, post: 1365673, member: 1077"] Alright, well here is a scenario I'm talking about... I'll borrow from your scenario... So the shop keeper wants to sell this sword to the PC. The PC lost his sword in a battle with a rust monster, so he really does need a sword now. Well, what the PC doesn't know is, it's a cursed sword, and the shop keeper is cursed. The only way to lift the curse is if someone willingly takes the sword. So the shop keeper is trying desperately to get rid of it. However, the shop keeper is so insistant about selling the sword, the PC gets a little leary of purchasing it. He rolls sense motive as you suggested, but can't catch this guy in a lie, and can't seem to get any more info out of him about the sword. He really has no reason to disbeleive him, and he really does need a sword, but the player decides that there is just something going on here with the shop keeper, and decides not to buy the sword. To me, this is like a Catch 22. There really is no reason why the CHARACTER shouldn't buy the sword. He can afford the sword, he's be getting a good deal on it, and he does need a replacement one. But he didn't need to roll sense motive to notice how insistant the shop keeper was being, that was sort of obvious. So what is the correct "roleplay" response? Either the dice dictates that the character should have bought the sword, as there was no reason he shouldn't have. OR it doesn't matter what you rolled on Sense Motive, the player is going to do what he wants to do anyway. [/QUOTE]
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