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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Old Gumphrey" data-source="post: 3562904" data-attributes="member: 12872">I think rogues are terribly weak. Yeah, they do a whole lot of damage. No, they don't have a lot of HP. No, they don't have a lot of AC. No, they don't have good Fort or Will saves. They've got great skills, but that doesn't help much when an orc barbarian is chopping them into d6's. Their advantages are not synergetic with the situations they often find themselves in (such as the middle of melee combat).I was going off what you posted (or perhaps all I saw of it), which was apparently incomplete information. My point was that if it made them flat-footed without that caveat, everyone would get to slap them silly.</blockquote>