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<blockquote data-quote="Pielorinho" data-source="post: 956446" data-attributes="member: 259"><p>I guess where we disagree is over whether this is "maximizing." There's a difference between configuring a character so a feat is useful (choosing weapon focus with a weapon you own) and configuring a character with the maximum benefit from a feat (taking wf: spiked chain, monkey grip, and improved trip). I'm calling for doing the former, not the latter. Taking spell thematics with spells that don't benefit from them is like taking weapon finesse when your strength is higher than your dexterity: it adds flair to your character sheet but nowhere else, and wastes a feat.</p><p></p><p>And the thing with spell thematics is that you get the pure unadulterated style with all of your spells, inasmuch as the window-dressing changes apply to everything you cast. The only difference with the central-theme spells is that you cast them more effectively; and if you choose central-theme spells that don't benefit perceptibly from +1 caster level, then you actually <strong>lose</strong> a chance for style instead of gaining it, since you no longer have spells that people will recognize you as being especially good at.</p><p></p><p>Daniel</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pielorinho, post: 956446, member: 259"] I guess where we disagree is over whether this is "maximizing." There's a difference between configuring a character so a feat is useful (choosing weapon focus with a weapon you own) and configuring a character with the maximum benefit from a feat (taking wf: spiked chain, monkey grip, and improved trip). I'm calling for doing the former, not the latter. Taking spell thematics with spells that don't benefit from them is like taking weapon finesse when your strength is higher than your dexterity: it adds flair to your character sheet but nowhere else, and wastes a feat. And the thing with spell thematics is that you get the pure unadulterated style with all of your spells, inasmuch as the window-dressing changes apply to everything you cast. The only difference with the central-theme spells is that you cast them more effectively; and if you choose central-theme spells that don't benefit perceptibly from +1 caster level, then you actually [b]lose[/b] a chance for style instead of gaining it, since you no longer have spells that people will recognize you as being especially good at. Daniel [/QUOTE]
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