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<blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 1677365" data-attributes="member: 3146">Not considering the mechanical rules, it would depend upon the purpose of your vow.If the vow is made for personal purity--your hands will not shed blood because that carries bad karma or impurity, etc--then you cold summon monsters to attack your foes to your heart's content because you're not shedding their blood directly. The point of the vow isn't to avoid violence but rather to avoid doing violence yourself. It would hardly be the first time vows and duties have been interpreted in such a literal manner. Orthodox jews reportedly consider it work (and therefore forbidden) to turn a light switch on on the sabbath but have no problem asking a non-jew to do so. (I've heard that some even employed non-Jewish servants to get around sabbath restrictions). Similarly, I could conceive of a culture where a holy man may not offer violence to his foes himself but it is though of as perfectly acceptable to summon his god's wrath (or emissaries of his god's wrath) to strike them down.If, on the other hand, the vow is made for moral or sacrificial reasons, or if you intend to be an apostle of peace or some such nonsense then it probably would be breaking your vow of non-violence.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Elder-Basilisk, post: 1677365, member: 3146"] Not considering the mechanical rules, it would depend upon the purpose of your vow. If the vow is made for personal purity--your hands will not shed blood because that carries bad karma or impurity, etc--then you cold summon monsters to attack your foes to your heart's content because you're not shedding their blood directly. The point of the vow isn't to avoid violence but rather to avoid doing violence yourself. It would hardly be the first time vows and duties have been interpreted in such a literal manner. Orthodox jews reportedly consider it work (and therefore forbidden) to turn a light switch on on the sabbath but have no problem asking a non-jew to do so. (I've heard that some even employed non-Jewish servants to get around sabbath restrictions). Similarly, I could conceive of a culture where a holy man may not offer violence to his foes himself but it is though of as perfectly acceptable to summon his god's wrath (or emissaries of his god's wrath) to strike them down. If, on the other hand, the vow is made for moral or sacrificial reasons, or if you intend to be an apostle of peace or some such nonsense then it probably would be breaking your vow of non-violence. [/QUOTE]

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