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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stoutstien" data-source="post: 8398189" data-attributes="member: 7020569">There isn't a party. There is a [party] as in a generic reference point they would have in common in the same way we would say they would hold up ok to [combat encounters] rather than having an actual campaign to run them through Artificers are more potent than they look on paper once you do start adding in specific party combinations because of the infusion system but that would involve a lot of pencil work even for a  simple comparison substituting them in for a fighter.</blockquote>