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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 5697749" data-attributes="member: 5889">This is something I noticed with the character builder recently.I made a hybrid wizard/battle cleric....which based on the core hybrid rules would have an armor prof of cloth only. However, I actually had scale proficiency.It turns out that the battle cleric gets scale proficiency as a bonus, and the builder was saying that prof overwrote the normal hybrid armor prof.so first question: Should this combo get Cloth only, or cloth and scale?Second question: Assume the hybrid does only get cloth. If I take the cleric armor proficiency hybrid talent, normally I would have access to chain as my highest armor. However, since as a battle cleric I do have access to scale, would that feat then allow me access to scale?My thought is cloth on the first one. The battle cleric is a class, which offers proficiencies. But hybrid rules take all the profs of both classes and grants the lowest one. I see nothing about battle cleric that should overwrite that.However, I think I would get scale through the hybrid talent. Though the talent doesn't say scale normally, in all other cases it provides the full armor proficiencies of that class. and since a battle cleric gets scale, then the talent would provide scale as well.What are your thoughts?</blockquote>