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Message: <blockquote data-quote="D+1" data-source="post: 2285764" data-attributes="member: 13654">It does not expand as it did in 2E and earlier versions.  The official ruling can be found in the 3E or 3.5 Players Handbook in the descriptions of magic and the Fireball spell specifically - or alternatively you can look it up in the SRD.Yep.That is not crap, nor is it broken by any possible definition.  As with ANY spell that <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">has an area of effect</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">does not emanate from the caster himself but a targeted point</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">does not have a minimum range that exceeds the maximum area of effect</li> </ul>it is perfectly possible for a spellcaster to still fry himself with his own fireball, even if it doesn't expand explosively in a confined space.The responsible parties would be Monte Cook, Jonathan Tweet, and Skip Williams who were the Players Handbook design team.Just because it doesn't work exactly like it used to it's now nonsensical?  It is VERY sensible because it now conforms to a much more consistent and unified set of rules regarding spell effects.  Now if you still want it to fill 33,000 cubic feet like it used to as a house rule, you go right ahead.  Nobody stopping you from doing it but you.  If you say you simply PREFER the older way I won't even argue with you (...much).  But claims that it's "broken," or "nonsense," or "crap," or designed by idiots have not a whit of basis in fact and I note that you offer nothing in substantiatiation.What I find particularly intriguing is that you post here asking if fireballs expand in d20, requesting REFERENCES to prove it, meaning that you were questioning in the first place whether it still expands in the newer rules as it once did .  Then when given the answer do not say "thank you" but instead spout a pointless denouncement of the answer itself as foolishness.  I'd almost call you a troll in that you apparantly don't care about the answer to your question in and of itself, but use the occasion to simply publicly deride the answer - except that it seems that you actually didn't KNOW the answer.  Hmn...   Troll, or merely ignorant?  I'm just not sure...</blockquote>

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