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<blockquote data-quote="evilbob" data-source="post: 4641978" data-attributes="member: 9789"><p>Thanks for the replies.</p><p></p><p>So, am I to understand that per the RPGA/LFR rules, the MM is <em>not</em> allowed for creating PC races, but otherwise, it is? And I know the character builder is supposed to allow you to create "legal" or "homebrew" versions of characters; will MM race characters automatically be considered "homebrew," or is there some step delineating between legal and <em>RPGA/LFR legal</em>? If that is the case, how do we keep track between those two standards? And how can we keep people on the forum from getting upset/snippy/confused when they are talking about one brand of "legal" verses another, or insulting each other by saying that what someone is talking about is "homebrew" and would not be "legal"?</p><p></p><p>And since this is an obviously related question, is there an official word from WotC that they will, in fact, be giving updates to the MM through Dragon magazine, which you have to pay for, and not through normal errata which is free? In other words, do you have to pay to get updates? I have seen a quote from a WotC staff member stating that the most recent publications are intended to update others, but how would you know unless you were a paid subscriber? Or will update information also be available online somewhere for free? And if so, why is it not included in the errata?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Does it seem reasonable that this is confusing? On one hand, we have two versions of certain races, such as the minotaur. The most recent version, which is apparently intended to update the other, is behind a paid service. So there's a question there on which one is "legal." Then we have some folks saying that you can't use a minotaur to be "legal" regardless because it's not legal in some standard common gaming rules that apparently exist somewhere outside of the core books. And some folks even seem to be advocating that the MM minotaur is not actually being replaced by the Dragon article, but that in fact the Dragon article is what is "legal" and the MM is simply only for NPCs, despite the words preceding that information in the MM itself.</p><p></p><p>Don't get me wrong: I understand that as a DM and a player I can use whatever, and that's fine and great. Personally, this is easy to accept, just like anything else about 4.0 that I want to use for my own games. But I am really getting frustrated by folks on the forum telling me down their noses that something isn't "legal" and I am talking about a "homebrew" choice and all that. What version of "legal" are we talking about? Are there even multiple versions? And if not, why are we arguing about what's legal and what isn't?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="evilbob, post: 4641978, member: 9789"] Thanks for the replies. So, am I to understand that per the RPGA/LFR rules, the MM is [I]not[/I] allowed for creating PC races, but otherwise, it is? And I know the character builder is supposed to allow you to create "legal" or "homebrew" versions of characters; will MM race characters automatically be considered "homebrew," or is there some step delineating between legal and [I]RPGA/LFR legal[/I]? If that is the case, how do we keep track between those two standards? And how can we keep people on the forum from getting upset/snippy/confused when they are talking about one brand of "legal" verses another, or insulting each other by saying that what someone is talking about is "homebrew" and would not be "legal"? And since this is an obviously related question, is there an official word from WotC that they will, in fact, be giving updates to the MM through Dragon magazine, which you have to pay for, and not through normal errata which is free? In other words, do you have to pay to get updates? I have seen a quote from a WotC staff member stating that the most recent publications are intended to update others, but how would you know unless you were a paid subscriber? Or will update information also be available online somewhere for free? And if so, why is it not included in the errata? Does it seem reasonable that this is confusing? On one hand, we have two versions of certain races, such as the minotaur. The most recent version, which is apparently intended to update the other, is behind a paid service. So there's a question there on which one is "legal." Then we have some folks saying that you can't use a minotaur to be "legal" regardless because it's not legal in some standard common gaming rules that apparently exist somewhere outside of the core books. And some folks even seem to be advocating that the MM minotaur is not actually being replaced by the Dragon article, but that in fact the Dragon article is what is "legal" and the MM is simply only for NPCs, despite the words preceding that information in the MM itself. Don't get me wrong: I understand that as a DM and a player I can use whatever, and that's fine and great. Personally, this is easy to accept, just like anything else about 4.0 that I want to use for my own games. But I am really getting frustrated by folks on the forum telling me down their noses that something isn't "legal" and I am talking about a "homebrew" choice and all that. What version of "legal" are we talking about? Are there even multiple versions? And if not, why are we arguing about what's legal and what isn't? [/QUOTE]
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