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does the MM include PC race choices?
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<blockquote data-quote="MarkB" data-source="post: 4641992" data-attributes="member: 40176"><p>A more accurate way of putting it would be "Per the RPGA/LFR rules, the MM is not a player resource, full stop. If you're not playing LFR, the monster races in the MM are available <em>if your DM says they are</em>. As the text you quoted from the MM states, it's up to your DM if he wants to allow their use.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The monster race writeups in the MM are, as stated, primarily used for the creation of NPCs. Dragon Magazine writeups of those same monsters as PC races are not updates of the MM, because their intended use is different.</p><p></p><p>Dragon magazine articles are officially part of the core rules once compiled, so monster races written up there are available for use as PCs by default, though of course individual DMs may veto them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It is not "despite" the words in the MM, it is because of them. The MM specifically says that those race writeups are not intended for PC use, and anyone wishing to put them to that use should seek DM permission first.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The only meaningful definition of "legal" here is as applied to RPGA Living games. Anywhere else, you could play a buck-toothed green dragon with butterfly wings for all anyone cares.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MarkB, post: 4641992, member: 40176"] A more accurate way of putting it would be "Per the RPGA/LFR rules, the MM is not a player resource, full stop. If you're not playing LFR, the monster races in the MM are available [i]if your DM says they are[/i]. As the text you quoted from the MM states, it's up to your DM if he wants to allow their use. The monster race writeups in the MM are, as stated, primarily used for the creation of NPCs. Dragon Magazine writeups of those same monsters as PC races are not updates of the MM, because their intended use is different. Dragon magazine articles are officially part of the core rules once compiled, so monster races written up there are available for use as PCs by default, though of course individual DMs may veto them. It is not "despite" the words in the MM, it is because of them. The MM specifically says that those race writeups are not intended for PC use, and anyone wishing to put them to that use should seek DM permission first. The only meaningful definition of "legal" here is as applied to RPGA Living games. Anywhere else, you could play a buck-toothed green dragon with butterfly wings for all anyone cares. [/QUOTE]
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