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<blockquote data-quote="evilbob" data-source="post: 4644574" data-attributes="member: 9789">And to me, the intent is that these races are ok for PC use.&nbsp; DMs are free to disallow them, but they -are- available for PC use.&nbsp; That's what I see as the RAW and the RAI.&nbsp; So I guess we disagree?I appreciate this response and frankly I think you may be right - but I'm not sure this actually answers the question I'm worried about, which is mainly how does this get translated into a position on these boards?&nbsp; In other words, is this something that there will simply always be a deadlock on (&quot;yes&quot; vs. &quot;of course not&quot;), or is there some way to produce a clear-cut answer that we can all reference?&nbsp; For example, Mistwell's semantics example that &quot;guideline&quot; doesn't equal &quot;rule&quot; will convince some, but does there exist a better interpretation that could convince all?Actually, I'm trying to keep my own stance out of this as much as possible.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp; You seem to be inferring that this is a problem that I am having with the rules for my own games:&nbsp; as I said earlier, it is not.&nbsp; This is a problem I am having/seeing with speaking about MM races on this board.&nbsp; The level of concern about what is &quot;RAW&quot; (or even &quot;RAI&quot;) is naturally high; if there is a common point upon which there is mutual consensus and we can all point back to, perhaps more arguments can be averted in the future.This is a complete non sequitur to me.&nbsp; What does this even mean?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="evilbob, post: 4644574, member: 9789"] And to me, the intent is that these races are ok for PC use. DMs are free to disallow them, but they -are- available for PC use. That's what I see as the RAW and the RAI. So I guess we disagree? I appreciate this response and frankly I think you may be right - but I'm not sure this actually answers the question I'm worried about, which is mainly how does this get translated into a position on these boards? In other words, is this something that there will simply always be a deadlock on ("yes" vs. "of course not"), or is there some way to produce a clear-cut answer that we can all reference? For example, Mistwell's semantics example that "guideline" doesn't equal "rule" will convince some, but does there exist a better interpretation that could convince all? Actually, I'm trying to keep my own stance out of this as much as possible. :) You seem to be inferring that this is a problem that I am having with the rules for my own games: as I said earlier, it is not. This is a problem I am having/seeing with speaking about MM races on this board. The level of concern about what is "RAW" (or even "RAI") is naturally high; if there is a common point upon which there is mutual consensus and we can all point back to, perhaps more arguments can be averted in the future. This is a complete non sequitur to me. What does this even mean? [/QUOTE]

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