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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bauglir" data-source="post: 835373" data-attributes="member: 6982">1.  Owls Wisdom doesn't appear in the PHB  (IMO it should, but it doesn't..)2. How does the Monk know where the shield is?  It's invisible, and a canny wizard will angle it to the side to prevent just this sort of shenanigans, or stay close to a wall.3. By adding buffs to the scenario, you're making it at least 2v1.   If the monk has casters to buff him, why wouldn't the wizard have tanks to guard him, in a fair comparison?  And of course adding these factors overcomplicate the scenario and dilute the effect of the class in question..4.  If the wizard will pass on a 14  (I think a wiz5 has a +1 base fort, don't have the book here) there's a 65% chance of the save failing - point to the monk.5.  As I calculate it, the monk has a 48.75% chance of re-stunning the stunned wizard.6.  In the 61% slice where he's not stunned, yes he will.  The fighter poses an actual threat.  The monk can't deal out enough damage to be more than a pest.The thing is, even getting past the shield, the monk has a 42% chance to stun the wizard.  This is pretty much as good as it gets.  A figure like this should be the average, not the maximum for the ability to be useful.The wizard DID have MA, ShieldThe wizard COULD have had:MA, Shield, Mirror Image, Blur, Haste, Blink,  Cats Grace..And 1 magic missile <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Argh I promised myself I'd stop - THIS is the last post <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool    :cool:"  data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></blockquote>

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