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Does the new ammunition rule screw up dual hand crossbow?
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<blockquote data-quote="spinozajack" data-source="post: 6640676" data-attributes="member: 6794198"><p>As Umbran likes to say "don't let perfect be the enemy of good".</p><p></p><p>Perfect verisimilitude in D&D is not obtainable, but there are limits to what's acceptable. Reloading a small crossbow several times a round quickly might stretch believability, but doing it with something in both hands definitely crosses a line that both the designers and substantial portions of people didn't want crossed.</p><p></p><p>Again, "more fun" to you. But not to everyone. And not to me. I don't want people playing a John Wu game with fully automatic crossbows that cost only a couple gold. </p><p></p><p>Your fun ends where mine begins. I don't find it fun even playing at the same table as another PC using objectionable or highly unbelievable mechanics. This is why I chose to play 5th edition. </p><p></p><p>Verisimilitude matters. It's why battlemasters have to roll a check to pull off their hijinx or stunts, it's also why you can't slide enemies more than one size category above yours. If you think it's fun for a halfling to slide or trip a colossal dragon with four legs with an at-will ability and without even a strength check, because that's "fun", good for you. </p><p></p><p>It's not fun to me, and the designers agreed that player abilities should not make people go what? That's why they designed the game this way. People didn't want powers that work without any realism support or explanation as to how it might actually work.</p><p></p><p>I do agree there's a point at which verisimilitude starts becoming not fun, but 5th edition is far from that line. I enjoy simple rules that try to make some kind of sense. But if rules are too relaxed as to allow just about anything to happen, then people will stop being immersed in the story. John Wu action movies are pretty over the top, and might be fun once in a while, it's not what a lot of people are after when they play D&D. Especially not at low levels.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="spinozajack, post: 6640676, member: 6794198"] As Umbran likes to say "don't let perfect be the enemy of good". Perfect verisimilitude in D&D is not obtainable, but there are limits to what's acceptable. Reloading a small crossbow several times a round quickly might stretch believability, but doing it with something in both hands definitely crosses a line that both the designers and substantial portions of people didn't want crossed. Again, "more fun" to you. But not to everyone. And not to me. I don't want people playing a John Wu game with fully automatic crossbows that cost only a couple gold. Your fun ends where mine begins. I don't find it fun even playing at the same table as another PC using objectionable or highly unbelievable mechanics. This is why I chose to play 5th edition. Verisimilitude matters. It's why battlemasters have to roll a check to pull off their hijinx or stunts, it's also why you can't slide enemies more than one size category above yours. If you think it's fun for a halfling to slide or trip a colossal dragon with four legs with an at-will ability and without even a strength check, because that's "fun", good for you. It's not fun to me, and the designers agreed that player abilities should not make people go what? That's why they designed the game this way. People didn't want powers that work without any realism support or explanation as to how it might actually work. I do agree there's a point at which verisimilitude starts becoming not fun, but 5th edition is far from that line. I enjoy simple rules that try to make some kind of sense. But if rules are too relaxed as to allow just about anything to happen, then people will stop being immersed in the story. John Wu action movies are pretty over the top, and might be fun once in a while, it's not what a lot of people are after when they play D&D. Especially not at low levels. [/QUOTE]
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